Rough Climb Over the Bay
Partial power loss in a Piper Cherokee 180 on departure — carburetor ice, fuel starvation, or maintenance? The decision window is short and the off-field environment is unforgiving.
The scenario
Departing Albert Whitted Airport (KSPG), St. Petersburg, FL — Runway 07, climbing out over Tampa Bay on a 062° heading. Elevation 7 ft MSL; the runway is essentially at sea level.
It is a hazy Florida afternoon in late spring: OAT 28°C, dew point 22°C, altimeter 29.92. Scattered clouds at 2,500 ft, light rain shower two miles to the northeast. Visibility 8 SM. Classic Gulf Coast conditions — warm, moist, and exactly the environment the FAA icing probability chart marks as 'serious icing at glide power, moderate icing at cruise power.'
You are 400 ft AGL, climbing through 74 KIAS (Vy), heading 062°, when the engine begins to run rough. Power is noticeably down — the tachometer is dropping. The water of Tampa Bay fills the windscreen ahead. KSPG's tower is part-time (0700–2100) and is open; you are in Class D airspace.
Aircraft: Piper Cherokee 180, solo, full fuel (both tanks topped), within limits. Carbureted Lycoming O-360-A, fixed-pitch prop, steam panel, fuel selector on LEFT (you switched to LEFT at the run-up to verify the left tank). Nothing was written up; the airplane was airworthy at departure.
Pilot: you — a Private pilot, current, roughly 200 hours total. You applied carburetor heat during the run-up and the engine ran smoothly. You turned carb heat off after takeoff to get full power for the climb. You did not apply it again after rotation because you were heads-down on the climb.
- {'label': 'Field', 'value': 'KSPG · Albert Whitted'}
- {'label': 'Runways', 'value': '7/25 · 18/36'}
- {'label': 'Elevation', 'value': '7 ft'}
- {'label': 'Aircraft', 'value': 'PA-28-180'}
- {'label': 'Dominant phase', 'value': 'Landing / Takeoff'}
The decision
Before we get into the decision tree — what do you already know about engine failures and carburetor icing in the Piper Cherokee 180? (Pick all that apply; this records your baseline.)
What the record shows
What the NTSB files show
NTSB DEN07CA035 (2006): A Piper PA-28-180 on a personal flight lost engine power on base leg due to carburetor icing. The pilot attempted a forced landing on a road, swerved to avoid car lights, and struck a tree. The aircraft was substantially damaged. The probable cause was carburetor ice formation in conditions conducive to serious icing. Contributing factors were unsuitable terrain and the tree obstacle. The pilot did not survive.
NTSB ATL03LA148 (2003): A Piper PA-28 on a personal flight experienced engine power loss during takeoff climb after extended ground operation in conditions favorable for carburetor icing. The probable cause was the pilot's failure to apply carburetor heat prior to takeoff, allowing ice to form in the induction system.
NTSB NYC03LA096 (2003): A Piper PA-28-180 on an instructional flight experienced partial engine power loss on initial climb after takeoff. The pilot made a forced landing in a field. The probable cause was an inadequate 100-hour inspection that failed to detect a loose fuel line connection. A contributing factor was night conditions.
NTSB ANC25LA094 (2025): A Piper PA-28-180 experienced partial engine power loss with vibration during climb-out following a low-altitude runway inspection pass. The pilot made a forced landing in terrain. The probable cause was engine malfunction that prevented continued climb.
The local environment at KSPG makes this scenario particularly unforgiving: Runway 07's departure end is open water — Tampa Bay. An engine failure on the Runway 07 departure at low altitude is a ditching, not a field landing. There is no open field, no road, no park. The water is the off-field environment. This is not hypothetical; it is the NLCD ground cover off that runway end.
The real accidents cited above occurred at other airports and in other aircraft — NOT at Albert Whitted Airport. KSPG has its own accident history (see field dominant patterns), but these specific events happened elsewhere. The scenario is localized to KSPG to make the off-field environment real and consequential for you as a student here.
The consistent thread across all these events: carburetor ice in the PA-28-180 is insidious. It builds gradually, the first symptom is roughness and a dropping tachometer (not a dramatic power cut), and by the time it is obvious, it may be too late for a comfortable recovery. The fix — full carburetor heat, immediately, at the first sign of roughness in conducive conditions — is simple. The failure is always a delay.
Key lesson — In warm, moist Gulf Coast air, the PA-28-180's carbureted O-360-A can accumulate serious carburetor ice even at cruise power and above-freezing temperatures. Apply full carburetor heat at the first sign of engine roughness or unexplained RPM loss. At low altitude over water, the decision window is measured in seconds — not minutes. Off Runway 07 at KSPG, the off-field environment is Tampa Bay: a delayed response means a ditching, not a field landing. Additionally, remember that the PA-28-180 fuel selector has LEFT / RIGHT positions only — no BOTH. Running a tank dry or taking off on a near-empty tank is a starvation trap unique to this airplane.
Debrief — teaching points
Carburetor ice forms in conditions you would not expect.
The FAA icing probability chart shows 'serious icing at glide power' at temperatures between roughly 20°C and 30°C when relative humidity is high — exactly the Gulf Coast afternoon conditions at KSPG. You do not need visible ice, freezing temperatures, or IMC. Warm, moist air at reduced power is the classic carb-ice environment. The PA-28-180's Lycoming O-360-A is carbureted; it has no alternate air system. Carburetor heat is the only tool.
The first symptom is subtle — a dropping tachometer and engine roughness.
In a fixed-pitch airplane like the PA-28-180, carburetor ice first shows as engine roughness and an unexplained RPM decrease. There is no dramatic power cut. Pilots who are not actively monitoring the tachometer miss the early warning. By the time the roughness is obvious, significant ice has accumulated. Scan the tachometer as part of your regular instrument scan, especially in conducive conditions.
Apply full carburetor heat — not partial — and expect an initial RPM drop.
When you apply carb heat to an iced carburetor, the RPM will drop further before it rises. This is expected and normal: the heat is melting ice and the resulting water is briefly disrupting combustion. Do not remove carb heat when the RPM drops — that is the heat working. Hold it full on. The RPM will recover as the ice clears, typically within 15–30 seconds depending on ice accumulation. Partial carb heat can worsen the situation by partially melting ice into water ingestion without fully clearing the restriction.
At KSPG Runway 07, an engine failure on departure is a ditching.
The off-field environment off Runway 07's departure end (heading 062°) is open water — Tampa Bay. There is no alternate landing surface. If the engine quits on the Runway 07 departure and altitude is insufficient to return to the airport, the outcome is a ditching. This is not a worst-case scenario; it is the geographic reality. Best glide is 65 KIAS. Cabin door unlatched before water contact. Master off just before impact. Flaps for slowest possible touchdown speed — impact energy rises with the square of touchdown speed, so the slowest possible speed matters most. Know this before you line up on Runway 07.
The PA-28-180 fuel selector has LEFT / RIGHT positions only — no BOTH.
Unlike some aircraft, the PA-28-180 has no BOTH position on the fuel selector. You must actively switch tanks during flight. Running a selected tank dry, or taking off on a near-empty tank, is the signature starvation trap in this airplane. Before takeoff, verify both tanks are full or nearly full, and plan your tank-switching sequence for the flight. On a short local flight like a departure from KSPG, you may not need to switch tanks — but you must know which tank you are on and confirm it has fuel. A fuel selector check during an engine anomaly is a valid diagnostic step.
Proactive carb heat use in conducive conditions is not optional.
The PA-28-180 POH and the FAA Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge both recommend applying carburetor heat when conditions are conducive to icing — before the symptom appears. In a Gulf Coast summer departure, with OAT near 28°C and dew point near 22°C, that means applying carb heat during the run-up check (and confirming the expected RPM drop, then recovery) and considering its use during climb in visible moisture or high humidity. Waiting for the roughness to appear at 400 ft AGL over Tampa Bay is waiting too long.
Built from the real accident record
Scenario built from NTSB DEN07CA035 (2006 PA-28-180 carburetor ice on base leg), ATL03LA148 (2003 PA-28-180 carb ice on takeoff climb), NYC03LA096 (2003 PA-28-180 fuel line failure on climb), and ANC25LA094 (2025 PA-28-180 engine malfunction on climb-out). Localized to KSPG; real events occurred at other airports.
NTSB reports: DEN07CA035 · ATL03LA148 · NYC03LA096 · ANC25LA094
ACS tasks: PA.I.F — Weather Information · PA.I.G — Cross-Country Flight Planning · PA.IX.C — Emergency Approach and Landing · PA.I.H — Human Factors · PA.II.B — Engine Starting / Systems Preflight
Relevant FARs: §91.3 · §91.13 · §91.185
Step through the full decision tree, make the calls, and see where each choice leads — then debrief it with your CFI.
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